It would be a very cool thing to have done by someone but I believe Jim Mazur already does that for meet-specific handicapper books that focus on the best 100+ trainers during the Last 3 or L6 meets depending on the meet

There are 5 different products that he sells on Saratoga alone for stats
1) Saratoga Handicapper- Covers L3 meets on Post Positions/Running Styles 40% Club (trainers w/ stat that is 40% winners+) Profiles on the top 20 trainers and 80 mini profiles on the rest of the trainers plus more

2) Blue Chip Trainer Plays- These are angles specific to the Saratoga meet that trainers have shown but there are specific criteria to follow:
The trainer must have maintained a 12% winning average at the last three meets.
• The angle had to score at least 3 times with 3 different horses.
• The angle had to score at least once at the previous meet.
• The angle had to produce a 33% win average and a 100% ROI.

3) and 4) Saratoga Handicapper Stats L3 Years and PLUS Handicapper L6 years- Breaks down 100 trainers who were shown in the Handicapper book that covers all the stats you need to know about that trainer and how that trainer does in a specific category SPECIFIC TO SARATOGA NOT OTHER TRACKS! For example, did you know that Jorge Abreu during the L3 years at Saratoga with horses off 90+ days has hit a 12% clip (2 for 17) with an Itm rate of 29% BUT during the L6 years he is actually hitting at 17% (5 for 30) 37% Itm? You wouldn't know if you didn't have both books on hand!

5) Saratoga Handicapper Trainer Detail- Lists the 100 trainers (I believe) from the books above with each trainer's horses that ended up winning with their specific info (LR raced days off surface joc, etc)

It would still be a very cool idea for someone to do but if you wanted to take the guesswork out of the stats I would highly recommend Jim Mazur's products!

He covers Saratoga/Churchill Downs (Spring)/Del mar/Oaklawn/Keeneland Spring-Fall/Gulfstream Park/Belmont Spring-Fall as well as info for the Triple Crown/Breeders Cup and his Pedigree information!

Andy Serling is the best handicapper on the NYRA broadcast and Anthony is the best handicapper for media content and promotions in my opinion

An excellent handicapping show to me is:

*The show is reasonable in length and they spend a few even minutes on each race (especially the 2yo's stakes etc) I like to see at least 1 hour plus a few min before 1st post

*You have knowledgeable handicappers on set (either former jockeys/trainers/owners or just handicappers in general) and typically 1 to 3 at best more than 3 makes it really crowded and probably more focused on the "better" handicapper opinion over the others

*You break down each race as much as possible taking notes of each horse with their respective positives (jockey switch cutback distance etc) and negatives (hates sloppy track has a poor record on Turf etc) so the viewer knows what to look out for and what to REALLY look out for in terms of the negatives

*You watch replays of the horses (going back to the negatives) of the ones who had troubled trips and explain why that start means improvement today

*You help the newbies pick out good races to bet their money on and also help them with wagers (advice) or even put up the best chance to bet on

*You give detailed notes on track bias/ j-t-o standings/troubled trip notes or whatever info is good for the public to know about like even how far the rails are out on the turf and if the track has been graded etc

*Finally you have online access to the show via YouTube or Twitter/Facebook once the show is done and have links to your handicapper's important handicapping info if they provided them on the air and put up on the track's website for future use

Basically, I am looking for a Good time that is all lol

If the show has just selections without backup, what value does that give to the public to make betting choices?

I probably missed something up there, but that sums it up well! I hope this helps Dave :)

I am now walking as much as 1200 feet at a time. They’re talking about releasing me on 10/3. I am very much looking forward to getting out of here. — RanchWest

Great news! That's about 1 furlong and 180 yards!

Prayers were answered thank you God and Dave for the update on Ranch

Ranch take it easy my friend we will be waiting for you on your return to the forum!

Happy birthday William! Hope your day is filled with WINNER$!

Yea that sounds like a good plan

Have already started looking at the card on Thursday might have to use the 5 races on that day alone ;)

I like it!

Count me in Ranch! But for now, Saratoga will race Thursday-Sunday this week then Wednesday-Sunday until the end of the meet which ends on a Monday correct?

This format is kind of like a "Race Of The Day" which I would rather do than grind out multiple races and more of a hassle than help

Good luck to everyone I hope to participate well during this contest! :)

r4; 88/91/83/88
Projecting the stretch to be the slowest time/split of the race
r8; 80/83/85/86
Projecting the start to be the slowest time/split of the race

In R#4 I was projecting a somewhat fast pace going from the 1/2 to 3/4 and for R#8 I was projecting a slow race to start and then pick up after

Race 4 was favouring E E/P at the meet but was 50/50 during the week for E and P horses
Since I thought the pace would be fast at the 1/2 way mark of the race I would eliminate the E and P horses which were #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 but I did keep #2 #3 #5 #6 since I thought they would keep their stamina and also showed strong #ers at the end now with the #1 and #1a I would keep them both because they are late closers and figured they would be around in the end so now I have the contenders of #1/1a #2 #3 #5 #6; Now we narrow down our horses to 3 which I would keep #1/#1a for late closing #2 showing strong #ers at the end #3 showing good #ers but throw out the #5 and #6 for having early speed so our new top 4 are 1-1a-2-3 which the #3 won 1a was 2nd and 2 was 3rd!

Race 5 was favouring E and P horses 50/50 for the meet but was 100% of P horses during the week so I would eliminate E horses due to myself projecting the P and S horses to favour due to the slow pace upfront so that eliminates the #2 #4 and #8 out of contention; So now lets narrow down the rest of the field! (not in order) Keeping #7 #1 #6 #3 #10 showing strong #ers later on and we will throw out #9 #8 not showing strong #ers late; Now narrowing our contenders to 4 which we will do with the best #ers late which were #7 #6 #1 and #3 throw out #10 just narrowly getting beat by #3 numbers so our Top 4 are now 1-3-6-7 which #1 won #7 was 2nd #3 was 3rd and #6 was 4th!

I am still learning all of this and sorry for past posting but projecting the pace with my own numbers will soon pay off which it did in both of these races! And showing this as an example not for bragging rights

Thank you for letting us know Dave!

:6: Mo Donegal 5/2

:2: Skippylongstocking 20-1

:4: Rich Strike 7/2

:1: We the People 2-1

I just hope 'Donegal can get a good trip to take it all plus I really want to see Skippylongstocking get a top 3 finish I included the Derby winner (Rich Strike) and Peter Pan winner (We the People) underneath in my exotic tickets! Good luck to everyone playing this year's Belmont Stakes!

I thought that posts 1-6 horses were drawn well but don't disown posts 7-8 as the winning posts last 5 years have been 2 7 8 1 2

We The People has a excellent rail position and even Rich Strike post 4 is solid

Will post rest of what I like later in the week (Friday evening + Saturday morning)

The 154th Running of The Belmont Stakes field is set:

Scroll up a couple of posts.

@RanchWest was kind enough to post it. — Dave Schwartz

Yes I can see that thanks

I cannot seem to download as a exe (I changed the file to exe) but it says I cannot open due to being a Microsoft file on a Apple

I have one called Exotic Wager Calculator. The executable is named EWC2.EXE. It is free. If you can't find it, I can email it to you. It does up to 20 horses for verticals up to 6 and horizontals up to 8, amounts .05, .10, .20, $1, $2, $3, $5, $10. — RanchWest

I thought I had the same exotic calculator but can’t find the file for it darn

Enjoy the new job Conley and Best of LUCK !! — William Zayonce

Thank you William should be a FUN summer! :)

before your time i guess....

Adam Sandler was getting paid for piano lessons , from that old lady , in meatballs — HorseSense

OK I understand it now don't remember watching that movie ever but thanks for the laugh

Nice going Conley.....

Should keep you busy......

PS.......I hope your getting some money doing this LOL

instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY1hndoLGg4
23m — HorseSense

Thanks HorseSense!

Not sure what you mean about the video though?

Congrats! That is going to be an amazing experience! — Ray Wallin

Thank you Ray! I enjoy your writeups on US Racing

Congrats, go get some winners :fire: — Dustin Korth

Thanks Dustin! Got all info I need now ;)