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  • What should an odds line be?


    I have several patterns of when the pace falls apart.

    1) Nearly all of the horses have low %Median as their typical pattern.
    2) Giles Speed Points is zero.
    3) Giles Speed Points is very high, like above 6.

    Now, I have taken the median %Median of each horse and then the median of all horses. The likely winners are usually near that race median, even if they show few other positive factors.
  • What should an odds line be?
    I continue to think that %Median is a very important figure. I see a lot of longshots that figure to like races that match their best energy... some of them don't seem to have much else going for them.
  • What should an odds line be?
    Most of my different ideas get poo poo'ed. lol
  • What should an odds line be?
    I don't get this at all. If Monty Hall always works, why aren't you making millions?
  • What should an odds line be?
    I have been considering different perspectives a lot.
  • Remarkable
    That's not just for the Surface Pro. I can do that in Edge on my Dell laptop.
  • What should an odds line be?

    Yep, they don't know what to look for.
  • What should an odds line be?


    Nobody has it because sometimes it helps to think like a trainer.
  • What should an odds line be?
    There's also the horses that match what you know works and nobody has it.
  • What should an odds line be?
    Wagering is likely to consolidate around a few large tracks, much like Hong Kong.
  • What should an odds line be?
    I highly suspect that the whales have a grip on what they are doing to the pools. Enough so that that is not their worry. They wouldn't be betting millions of dollars without an understanding of how they are impacting the pools.

    Their worries would be like a girth not being cinched properly, a goose flying into their horse (I have seen it happen), a jock falling off, etc. Those are the things that they must compensate for long-term but have no control over short-term.
  • What should an odds line be?
    They don't view their liability as the other money in the pool. Their liability is something weird happening.
  • What should an odds line be?
    Hope this helps.Dave Schwartz

    It doesn't help any. lol

    But I really appreciate the explanation. Thanks, Dave.
  • What should an odds line be?
    My point here is that today the tote board doesn't help us much... certainly nowhere near as much as it once did. So, our best defense of ourselves is to have a line that protects us from being surprised that a horse goes to 1/9.
  • Have you ever?
    I just watched a video on YouTube that included a part on how Bill Benter hired a person to watch race videos where horses unexpectedly lost so he could figure on how to reduce risk... antifragility, though no reference is made to that term. The video is called How This Man Profited $1 Billion Betting on Hong Kong Horse Races by Economics Explained.
  • Chalk


    I don't have that product. I know that after Dave taught me how important PROCESS is, my handicapping improved dramatically. So, I expect that Organize Your Handicapping is probably a very good product. I know I had no idea how important process is, but now I would say it may be the most important part of handicapping.
  • Chalk
    We can't control the prices. We just have to know when to zig and when to zag.
  • Have you ever?
    My Dog, I hope I'm not getting dyslexia!Tom
    Are you tishing me?
  • Have you ever?
    It's exciting to see you delving into the realm of "What If". The realm of the "possible" rather than the "probable". It seems that our imagination is the one factor that cannot be quantified..William Zayonce

    Thanks. I've been doing horse racing what if's since I first read Quirin. I wrote my first handicapping computer program in 1982. If I can stimulate others to ask "what if", I consider that a good thing.
  • Have you ever?


    An example:

    Handicapping one leg of a P4. 7 horses. 1 Need-to-lead with 8 Quirin speed points. We determine this horse is the likely winner, but our stats say it is not quite good enough to be a single. We need one more horse. Of the other 6 horses, three have 3 Q points and three have no Q points. Our normal strategy says that in this circumstance, we assume the horses with limited speed will get run off their feet and we should play one of the zero point horses. That may or may not be a valid strategy, but it is just an assumption for this example.

    But what if something unpredictable happens? The NTL horse doesn't get out of the gate or stumbles or the jockey falls off. Now the rest of our premise falls apart. The horses with 3 Q points are now the front runners and one of them will likely win. Again, this is an assumption for the example.

    So, what should our strategy be? Where do we assign our risk avoidance? Do we select a 3-point horse or a 0-point horse or do we add a third selection, escalating the cost of our ticket?

    The idea here is to offer up another way of looking at wagering. Just another thought process.

    I got into this thought process in two ways. Dave has a product on what wins in winter. That doesn't really have anything to do with this antivolatility, but I thought the two play well together. The other was watching some antivolatility videos on YouTube.