Dave: I hurt my back about 25 years ago at work and quickly realized that the seated position was probably the worst thing for causing more pain. Standing or laying on the side proved to be much more tolerable along with abdominal strengthening exercises.

Thanks Dio. That is good information. I am looking to getting up to speed with the program in a couple of months.

So my contention that an 88:4 race being approximately in the middle of the possible range of contenders might indeed be a good candidate for a 4 horse exacta box? Or am I reading too much into this?

I do tend to believe that win percentage can be used as a proxy for a horse's theoretical place and/or show percentage. Just about every stat I have ever seen show a factor's place hit percentage greatly exceed its win percentage in anything but the smallest samples if that factor is any good.

Sorry about that ponyplayer I guess I should have worded that more precisely. I WAS referring to the deTerminator's ability to able to come up with the winner 88% of the time with its 4 contenders. My question was only about the deTerminators ability to do this and not about any other method.

Why not wait for the races with precisely four contenders that comprise the 88% and just play a 4 horse exacta box with those? I would imagine that the hit rate would be pretty good.

Could we employ the morning line in the handicapping for the method that you display here? Or do you still recommend against that, and instead to use an "artificial" morning line? Also, in the last video you mentioned an alternative way of being able to play the chaos horses. Would that involve playing all of the horses going off at above natural odds?

Thanks Dave, that is good information.

I tend to play quite a lot of longer priced horses and like to employ the exacta as a place bet strategy. I will generally wheel these horses front and back with the two betting favorites in the race in the exacta. So being able to potentially eliminate some of these low priced horses from the bottom of the exacta would be advantageous.

Dave: I assume that your research is for cases where low odds horses can be tossed from win consideration. Has your research also come across situations where the low odds horse or horses can be tossed from the place hole as well?

I happened to notice that second positive work that you mentioned after I made my initial post. There just seems to be something about that second Lasix angle that makes it a very potent catalyst when combined with virtually any other positive change.

Not currently a Determinator user and this is not meant to be a redboard, but I had this horse as a play because I just love 2nd time Lasix horses combined with any type of potentially positive change: In this case the improved workout since last raced and blinkers-on. I have had more than just a few scores lately in maiden races that look very similar to this one.

In situations such as this I almost always will go with the higher odds horse, even though that would tend to fly in the face of general win probability. You need to separate yourself from the crowd in contests and that almost always means going for longer prices.