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  • Chuck
    2
    Just curious in terms of your lingo on your software where the number # 11 Idratherbeblessed was on your line in Race # 10 at Fair Grounds was Sat. and was wondering where "First Pitch" last race at Aqueduct yesterday. LOL.. funny baseball season getting underway... there is no cheating in horse racing despite being very cheap horses in the last race...........................
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  • Dave Schwartz
    394
    Is that the $100 winner that the guys in the Saturday group were talking about?

    If so, I think that was a big-time chaos race.

    Horses like that are rarely handicappable - but we do catch them once in a while.

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  • Jim Pommier
    99
    ↪Chuck
    Both horses were "high odds" horses. But, both races were "Chaos 5" races. If you decided to swing for the fences, and dutch 6 horses at FG and 5 horses at AQU-- you would have received a nice return.
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  • Red Knave
    19
    The FG race was pretty impossible but not the AQU race. The Big Brian objects rated the horse a 1-7. If you had boxed the five 1s you get the exacta and tri. 1s are always dangerous.
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  • Dave Schwartz
    394
    FG Race10
    1. The race is a chaos 5.
    Chaos 5s are best played without handicapping.

    2. Fire the Neal and sort.
    That puts the winner as the 2nd best GOOD BET in the race - an automatic bet.

    In this example, I went down 6 horses - one horse beyond the "GOOD BETS."

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    Special Note: What prevents us from hitting races like this one is the insistence on handicapping the winner instead of simply throwing the appropriate number of longshots up as bets.

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  • Dave Schwartz
    394
    The AQU09 race on Sunday was EXACTLY the same situation.

    1. The race is a chaos 5.
    Chaos 5s are best played without handicapping.

    2. Fire the Neal and sort.
    That puts the winner as the 2nd best GOOD BET in the race - an automatic bet.

    In this example, I went down 5 horses - the same as before - using what the system recommeded.

    It is ALWAYS the need to handicap the winner that takes us off the big payoffs, DESPITE THE INSTRUCTIONS AGAINST IT.

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  • Dave Salvini
    1
    Not currently a Determinator user and this is not meant to be a redboard, but I had this horse as a play because I just love 2nd time Lasix horses combined with any type of potentially positive change: In this case the improved workout since last raced and blinkers-on. I have had more than just a few scores lately in maiden races that look very similar to this one.
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  • Gillycapper
    32
    ↪Dave Salvini
    The horse had two recent A workouts as well. Definitively not a hidden horse.
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  • Dave Salvini
    1
    ↪Gillycapper
    I happened to notice that second positive work that you mentioned after I made my initial post. There just seems to be something about that second Lasix angle that makes it a very potent catalyst when combined with virtually any other positive change.
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