This is also the answer to the question you posted from @stevekisslinger.

Thank you.

What about question #2 on your computer?

Since Texas does not allow ADW's, the easiest way for me to follow the action is with Twinspires on my phone while my program is up on my PC. — RanchWest

1. Can you get that same site on your computer?
2. Can you copy/paste the screen?

Thank you.
It is imperative that I get the odds into the software.

I will begin with AmWager and ATR.

Me, too.
Guess I will begin with that one.

And, of course, ATR will be an option.

As I said, I already have an ATR interface to my existing product.

Since I am adding features to a new product, I'd prefer it not come with a $100-per-year tax.

So, I'm looking for tote boards to be copied/pasted into the software.

I could scrape but that is generally against the terms of service. Well, it is always against TOS.

Thank you.
Of course, I have that but not everyone wants to spend the money. Besides, getting the data OUT is a hassle.

ATR actually has an HSH interface that does a good job, but it is too slow when you're playing 4 or more tracks.

What I meant was, "What WEBSITE do you use to view and/or capture the odds?"

Let me try it another way.

How do you get data from the tote board?

Man, if that's funny, just wait until you hear my comedy routine! — RanchWest

Mama raised me to be po-light.

That's the pronunciation of the two words. For instance, it is NOT log-it. — RanchWest

Hilarious!
:razz: :rofl:

LOH-jit, prä-bət. — RanchWest

What that mean, Kemosabe?

Could not find a translate page.

Thanks Dave! This is another concept that will twist my brain in x directions. LoL — William Zayonce

LOL

If you like CX Wong's book, know that there is a link in it to a whole bunch of spreadsheets.

Precision: Statistical and Mathematical Methods in Horse Racing

A bit of thread drift, but if you like that one, perhaps you will like this one as well.

SEARCHING FOR POSITIVE RETURNS AT THE TRACK: A MULTINOMIAL LOGIT MODEL FOR HANDICAPPING HORSE RACES

LOGIT is the basis for how the whales play.

Basically, there are two strategies used by the whales.

• Logit
• Probit

Which leads to this:
Logit vs Probit Models: Differences, Examples

Are you guys seeing this issue with your data?
At some point Gulfstream changed races originally scheduled for Turf to be moved to the Tapeta instead of the main track. Because there has always been one symbol for "off the turf" that historically means "moved to dirt", my incoming data is showing off the turf races as ran on dirt, when they were actually moved to tapeta. — Dustin Korth

What is your data source?

Ranch- I have never seen a rule prohibiting this practice. I have seen trainers requiring some sorts of kickbacks from riders but nothing like this story. Illegal no- unethical yes — Tony Kofalt

Exactly.

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. :)
I got them from Benter. ;)

Here are the time decay factors in HSH.


Here are the Composite Factors.


Take a look at Time-Decay Stretch Run and the like.

Dave has a product entitled "Understanding Early Speed".... In one of the later chapters he defines four distinct race shapes based upon "pace pressure" (using Quirin Early Speed Points).... If there is "no discernable pace pressure" or in other words, pace pressure is not predictable, then you have a "chaos" race.... This "process" has served me well and I'll leave it to Dave to elaborate if he so chooses....

Or, I'm sure he'd be pleased if you purchased this excellent product!

BTW, I'm not a shill for Dave and I must admit I've purchased most all of his products.... I've both used and discarded many of his ideas; but without exception, I've found handicapping "nuggets" in all of them! — Jack Price

Just awesome.

I just happen to have a link right here.
Understanding Early Speed

I'm not sure if I have much to offer because, to me, "Chaos Race" means something very different than it seems to mean to you guys.

Not saying you're wrong, but to me it indicates... well, chaos. LOL

Now, I understand that in the mathematical sense, "chaos" really means that order exists where there seems to be no order.

But, my opinion is that when you find a CHAOS RACE, you (essentially) don't handicap it because the handicapping won't select the winner.

My belief being what it is, CHAOS could easily mean HANIDCAPPING WILL FAIL.

I find TWO INSTANCES that consistently produce CHAOS RACES:

• Very Low Odds Horse Loses
• Early Speed Fails

What language are you using, Dave? — RanchWest

I use a language called Clarion.
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