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  • Ticketmaker


    Dave, here are some suggestions to 'productize' the TicketMaker spreadsheet graciously shared by Jack Price.
    Add options for vertical wagers such as the Trifecta and Superfecta. I not skilled in writing such tickets and I believe better specs could be obtained from users make these bets.
    Provide an option to select the track, race number and date for each wager.
    Provide a field for user to select the base bet for the series of wager, etc .20,.50, $1.00
    Ability to select the type of wager, P3, P4, P5, P6, Tri or Super.
    The TicketMaker could interface with a product to display each horses name and program number for each leg of the wager.
    Provide a field to mark each entrant as an A, B or C selection. Horses not marked as A, B or C are considered as non-contenders and will not be included in any wager.
    Based on the type of wager, the TicketMaster will display the wager broken into specific segments such as 4A, 3A1B, etc.
    Here are recommended segments for each type of horizontal wager. Individual tickets will be displayed within each segment. The bet size for each individual wager will default as the base bet size but can be modified to a different size.
    P3- 3A, 2A1B, 2A1c, 1A,2B, 1A2C, !A1B1C.
    P4- 4A, 3A1B, 3A1C, 2A2B, 2A2C, 2A1B1C.
    P5- 5A, 4A1B, 4A1C, 3A2B, 3A2C, 3A1B1c, 2A3B, 2A3C, 2A2B1C, 2A1B2C
    P6- 6A, 5A1B, 5A1C, 4A2B, 4A2C, 4A1B1c, 3A3B, 3A3C, 3A2B1C, 3A1B2B
    A switch will be available to turn off any segment so wagers for that segment will not be calculated or included in the price of the overall wager.
    Make the final list of wagers 'printable' for clean entry into the users ADW.
    Develop a hook into some major betting platform (NYBETS, 1stBet, TVG) to automate the placement of the bet.
    Segments for tri's and super's need to be developed.
    Not all of the recommendations need to be developed, such as a hook into individual ADW's, but are worth consideration for future upgrades.
  • 2022 Belmont Stakes

    At first blush, it appears that We The People may have another comfortable trip. I have some work to do on the race but I don't see a reason that I will be changing my mind
  • Ticketmaker

    Dave I get some ideas out tonight> Thank you for your interest
  • Ticketmaker
    After having a chance to look at the alternatives posted I once again want to thank everyone for their input. I bet primarily through NYRA Bets so I'm reluctant to venture into the DRF or 1st Bet options as they are linked to the betting sites. I really liked the home grown program presented by Jack!! I'm going to spend some time to see if fits into my play. I'm very happy with what I see so far. Thank you to Jack and all others!
  • Ticketmaker
    Thank you so much guys. I will give these alternatives a good luck later this evening. I appreciate it very much
  • Hanging With Better Players
    Great story Dave and how applicable to what we do.
  • Dutching?


    Well done Steven! Thank you for sharing
  • Lurking Long Enough...
    Welcome aboard Ray. Great introduction!! Look forward to exchanging ideas
  • Belmont 5-29 3rd Race
    Thanks to all for your input. It's fascinating to me watch someone's analysis. Always seem to learn something. I apologize for the scratch. Dave your use of HSH is top notch! You are definitely one of the most prepared players I know.
  • Researching negatives
    You guys totally amaze me!!! Ranch you are so creative, Coley do all this work for every track by hand and Dave always looking for a way to make the process easier.
    When it comes to negative factors, it seems to me that Pickmaster was used in HSH to identify negative factors some years ago. I don't recall the outcome but it felt like a worthwhile venture. Dave do you remember that effort?
    Could there be an opportunity to report these items in a good news/bad news function?
  • Tom's Ulitmate Odds Line - The Software
    Tom is a very intuitive player. I have no idea how he does at the windows but I have to believe he's a winner
  • Picking Losers is the Best Whale Killer
    Thanks Dave. I recall this or similar research from a few years ago. It's amazing how much solid information is forgotten when you resume your regular handicapping.
  • How I handicap with minimal use of traditional past performances
    Off the turf races in NY today ran to form. Extremely low payouts.
  • Is there anything New?

    I can't say that I have any data to support that. When I come across a vulnerable favorite I have to make a decision, Do I ignore him on all my horizontal tickets or do I include him as a B level horse if I have strong opinions in other legs? Seldom do I believe a vulnerable fav can't win but it's that I think he will be overbet based on the way I see a race playing out. Sorry as I dont believe I had the answer you were looking for.
  • Is there anything New?
    There are some outstanding thoughts being exchanged here! Now this is what a handicapping forum is all about.
    I agree 100% that we have to be 'different' from the whales to uncover opportunities that they may miss. They play a highly sophisticated game that overcomes the take. And they are assisted by tools like batch wagering that most of us can't afford access to. So how do we compete?
    • Here are some ideas:
    • Make your game more artsy. Avoid commonly used paceline selection methods like 2 best of last 3. Instead, don't be afraid to select multiple pacelines, weigh them differently and perhaps factor in subtle changes to them.
    • Always project improvement or decline in a horses form. I'm not recommending wild swings but something different than the last performance.
    • Build and maintain something exclusive to yourself. Perhaps notes about prior races that are not widely available. Not just about the slow start that everyone else saw but maybe the pack position a runner found themselves in that is different than normal.
    • Focus on a few venues and become expects there. You will find nuggets of data that are not available to the general public.
    Any feedback is appreciated
  • What do you think of the traditional past performance model?

    Wow- I never saw CJ's performances before. Thanks.
  • What do you think of the traditional past performance model?

    According to a quick internet search it is the same product. Good job Tom
  • What do you think of the traditional past performance model?
    Not familiar with Equisim Ranch. I remember a sheet like product that a friend of mine used. If memory serves me correctly it was owned by Cary Fotius. It incorporated pace into the final numbers. It was named Equi 'something' lol
  • What do you think of the traditional past performance model?
    Has anyone ever tried Thorograph? Can you offer any comments on the layout and the data presented? How do you deal with pace in the product? Just curious