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  • Thistledown today
    Yes, races #10 and #11 from last year. GPX only had 9 races today. They usually then card a few races from I believe Argentina. Looks like maybe they thought there were 11 races today, but the last two (2) were from Argentina, not GPX.Jim Pommier

    Just heard from Ryan at HDW.
    He says that they repaired today's GP file to remove the wrong races.
  • Thistledown today
    FYI. Also, downloaded data files for GPX R10 and R11 from last year. I advised HDW.Jim Pommier

    Are you saying that they added 2 races from last year?
  • Thistledown today
    As always, Dave reached out immediately and we isolated the issue. Don't know if the guy ever sleeps, but his attention to his users is unmatched. Much appreciated!Jeff Capper

    LOL
    Thank you.

    It was like 8:30 when I saw the post.

    Listen, guys... when you have a TRAFFIC STOPPER, do what Jeff did - make a quick post.
    Many of you have my cell# - text me at any hour of the day or night - you will NEVER disturb me because I use DO NOT DISTURB when I'm off the air.

    But at least I will see it instantly when I am back on air.

    This morning I was actually up at 5:50am or so. I don't suddenly check forum messages, but I ABSOLUTELY DO check phone messages and email (I get email notifications of private messages.)

    As an example, someone blow up their upgrade install yesterday. They sent me a long string of inbox messages. I saw them at 5am and told him to message me so we could zoom.

    He's not yet read the message.
  • Thistledown today
    From Ryan at HDW
    ____________________
    Ryan Smith
    9:00 AM (4 minutes ago)
    to me

    Hey Dave,

    We have just resolved that issue within the last 15 minutes. There was also an incorrect CD card from 5/3/2025 posted for a few hours yesterday evening that we resolved.

    Ryan
  • Thistledown today
    Here's a look at Jeff Capper's screen.
    Clearly it was an HDW error - which is now fixed - because that file shows as downloaded TODAY.

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  • Thistledown today
    Perhaps they've corrected the download because this is what I find for today:

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  • Kentucky Derby


    Yes, I saw it.

    Funny thing was that I thought it was the 18.
  • Kentucky Derby
    Social media said 14 1519 R the hot long shots.
  • Kentucky Derby
    In fairness, an AI engine - even if it trained on every KY Derby in the last 20 years would have... wait for it... twenty races.

    That's such a narrow sample with crazy variances. It would basically create a backfit - which would be pretty much worthless.

    Truth be told, this is one of the rare times when an LLM using social media opinions has the potential of shining.

    Must ask the right questions for what you're searching for - based upon the Wisdom of the Crowd concept.

    For example...
    1. If you're interested in high hit rate, use a question like, "Who are the 3 most likely winners?"

    2. If you're interested in crazy high exacta payoffs you could structure your question like, "Who are the potential big-priced horses that have a chance today?"


    Please note that I put all of about 4 minutes thought into this.

    Dave
  • 3. Rank Bias Explained (18:51)
    Speed Ratings are changing.

    In our current approach, there are several recent changes in the way things are done that have changed “what’s important.”

    We’re seeing a trend away from “best of last 2” and “best 2of last 3” towards “best 2 of last 4.”

    In other words, RECENT RACES are LESS IMPORTANT.
  • 2026 HorseStreet Pars - Available Now
    Do we need to update the par file in Determinator like in HSH?Pete C

    It's coming tomorrow.
    I've been doing some testing before release.

    (Also with HSH)
  • 2026 HorseStreet Pars - Available Now
    I understand what you are saying, thanks!

    What I have difficulty with is comparing say a sprinters half mile time compared to a routers half mile time. Or say a sprinters 6F final time compared to a routers 6F time. I was thinking Quirin style pars such as yours might give me a ballpark or decent comparison.

    I appreciate it, thanks!
    jess boyd

    Ah... not what I thought you were asking.
    That is ALWAYS a problem.

    The numbers themselves should do that for you.
    The issue of whether or not a given horse will run to the front with a distance change is the biggest challenge.

    IOW, the root problem isn't the adjustments of the ratings near as much as the adjustment of running style.
  • 2026 HorseStreet Pars - Available Now
    The only thing I would like is the distance equalization for each horse in todays race.jess boyd

    That's what Par Times are for.
    There is not purely formulaic way to do it that actually works.

    It's just like Beyer's idea - 2 points per length at 6f to 3 points at 9f.

    That concept is (basically) "If I beat you by 2 lengths at 6f I'll beat you by 3 lengths at 9f."

    The problem is that the average beaten lengths (between 1st and 2nd finishers) from 6f to 9f is not even close to 150%. More like 7%.

    My belief is that the reason is horses don't run full speed for the entire race. They run fast to the 1st call and as fast as possible in the stretch.
  • 2026 HorseStreet Pars - Available Now
    Hi Dave, I recently learned that TFUS PP'S fractions are not adjusted Quirin style between horses at different distances to make head to head comparisons. The fractions reflect only what the horse ran at that particular distance, not projected to todays distance. Do you have any instructional video of how I could use the par times to convert each horse to todays distance? I'm not quiet sure if I would use the track pars, class levels for todays race, or what. Thank you!jess boyd

    First, I do have a video that shows how I use par times.

    But your problem is different because you're getting the time of the horse rather than the race, so the approach would be different.

    But there is good news...

    When you look at a horse's paceline, just treat it like HIS TIME was the RACE TIME and ignore his beaten lengths.

    It's actually easier.

    Here's a link to that video
  • Double Race Error on Ai Assistant screen


    Agree completely.
    Thank you for the great advice.
  • Double Race Error on Ai Assistant screen


    These are all Clarion files - not text files.

    Best guess is that the fix you suggested is a mitigation of the underlying problem I described.

    It's caused by DUPLICATES of a key field as they load into one of several files.
  • Double Race Error on Ai Assistant screen


    I will wait in the meeting until 9:00am pacific time.
  • Double Race Error on Ai Assistant screen


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  • Double Race Error on Ai Assistant screen
    Did you remember to reopen the day?