Do we need to update the par file in Determinator like in HSH? — Pete C

It's coming tomorrow.
I've been doing some testing before release.

(Also with HSH)

I understand what you are saying, thanks!

What I have difficulty with is comparing say a sprinters half mile time compared to a routers half mile time. Or say a sprinters 6F final time compared to a routers 6F time. I was thinking Quirin style pars such as yours might give me a ballpark or decent comparison.

I appreciate it, thanks! — jess boyd

Ah... not what I thought you were asking.
That is ALWAYS a problem.

The numbers themselves should do that for you.
The issue of whether or not a given horse will run to the front with a distance change is the biggest challenge.

IOW, the root problem isn't the adjustments of the ratings near as much as the adjustment of running style.

The only thing I would like is the distance equalization for each horse in todays race. — jess boyd

That's what Par Times are for.
There is not purely formulaic way to do it that actually works.

It's just like Beyer's idea - 2 points per length at 6f to 3 points at 9f.

That concept is (basically) "If I beat you by 2 lengths at 6f I'll beat you by 3 lengths at 9f."

The problem is that the average beaten lengths (between 1st and 2nd finishers) from 6f to 9f is not even close to 150%. More like 7%.

My belief is that the reason is horses don't run full speed for the entire race. They run fast to the 1st call and as fast as possible in the stretch.

Hi Dave, I recently learned that TFUS PP'S fractions are not adjusted Quirin style between horses at different distances to make head to head comparisons. The fractions reflect only what the horse ran at that particular distance, not projected to todays distance. Do you have any instructional video of how I could use the par times to convert each horse to todays distance? I'm not quiet sure if I would use the track pars, class levels for todays race, or what. Thank you! — jess boyd

First, I do have a video that shows how I use par times.

But your problem is different because you're getting the time of the horse rather than the race, so the approach would be different.

But there is good news...

When you look at a horse's paceline, just treat it like HIS TIME was the RACE TIME and ignore his beaten lengths.

It's actually easier.

Here's a link to that video

Agree completely.
Thank you for the great advice.

These are all Clarion files - not text files.

Best guess is that the fix you suggested is a mitigation of the underlying problem I described.

It's caused by DUPLICATES of a key field as they load into one of several files.

I will wait in the meeting until 9:00am pacific time.

I can meet right now.

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How do I know what these are, and when to use them?

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1. What they are is in the description.
2. How to use them is dependent upon your personal strategy.


Part 3 - will be WEDNESDAY at 4:30pm pacific time.
This is Q & A to make sure everyone is up to date.

** Anyone who has not completed Part 2 - Full onboarding - WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST.
** Only about half have completed Part 2. (We've done 2 live sessions and recorded both.)

Part 4 - Hopefully the following week
Part 4 is HOW TO BUILD YOUR OWN SYSTEM.
We will start with what I am calling EASY MODELING.

After Part 4 we'll change to full-on TEACHING MODE.
The workshops will slow down - every 2 weeks, then every 3 weeks, then ???
We'll also do some live play sessions.

These sessions will go on indefinitely.
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It can actually be the same day.
You MUST have all windows closed when you open a day - even if it's the same day.

Having an open window stops the old data from being deleted because the files are locked by the window.

How you fix it...
Reimport the day from scratch, including results if there were any.

The issue is that when you opened the day, you had one or more windows open.

It corrupted the day.

I had it too it was a nice hit — Ira Yorn

Pounding it!

↪Gillycapper I was just starting to post. I had the winner as well. I watched the replay just to make sure the #3 won. — Jim Pommier

And two Movers score big!

Had a nice win at 50/1 today at MVR. And my system nailed it!! Exacta paid 281 for every 2 wagered. — Gillycapper

Nice!
Congratulations, Super Star!

Nailed it

The great part about these sessions is that everyone involved in these sessions takes new stuff away - including me!

Did the Is Early factor help?

1. Whales win on rebates.
2. ADW's pay for the signal and win on the percentage of takeout.
3. Tracks sell the signal and win on the percentage of takeout.

LOL... there's room for us on this list. — Dio

Dio,

They can't stop us because we've CALIBRATED THEM!

Just make sure that you don't miss this seminar!
https://www.community.horsestreet.com/discussion/1244/get-you-winning-seminar-part-1-march-25/p1

Then they're going totally off the large rebate they get. — Andrew Kramer

Yes, that's how it works.
It's also how I arrived at the idea of using the hedge horses for hit rate knowing I couldn't make a profit.