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  • BC and more
    ↪Neal Freedman Hello Neal. I've been working on a strategy similar to Ram. First I have one (1) report that I use to pick contenders. Then in the Final Step I meld the two (2) Green "3" and "4" AI pacelines. For Turf and Tapeta, I meld a little different. Under GENRES I've been using ODS 63 with an Obj Wgt of "46". 46 will elevate a horse in this object versus using 50 or higher.
    I think the key is being consistent, especially with the initial Prime AI melding. Dirt, sprints, routes, turf, track specific-- be consistent with what you use. I've found using the two (2) Green "3" and "4" AI pacelines works pretty well for dirt races.
    Jim Pommier

    This is the stuff that makes Super Stars!
    Thank you!
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    Just a heads up... make sure that you track the Genres by Object Name instead of numbers because the numbers are regenerated alphabetically as new genres are added.
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    I'd like to describe what you are doing with BOXES.

    You'll want to make your own, but here's a starting point.

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    This is meant to be a simple worksheet with 4 races per page.

    • The top set is the explanation.
    • There are 4 COMPONENTS to your approach, numbered 1 thru 4.
    • "OOP" stands for "Order of Preference."

    • The 2nd set is a race that you won.
    • After the race is over, you use a highlighter to mark the winning horse.
    • The Fail Box contains a GREEN 0 to indicate that none of the COMPONENTS failed.

    • The 3rd set is a race that you lost.
    • After the race is over, you use a highlighter to mark the winning horse - GREEN to indicate the COMPONENT that had the winner, and RED to indicate that the COMPONENT FAILED.
    • The Fail Box contains a RED 3 to indicate the precise COMPONENT THAT FAILED.
  • BC and more

    Surprisingly, it was only the ones that actually had big payoffs, as I recall. LOL
  • BC and more


    Did you check out the Chaos5 races with A+ horses on Friday?

    (I only looked at Friday.)

    Just to be clear... Last November's races were not included in the training set. The AI was trained during the summer and for Graded races I went all the way back to 2013.
  • deTerminator's Best Feature
    Must be some good things!Mark

    Truly.
    They're working on how to win and I'm working on documentation.
  • deTerminator's Best Feature
    Where's everyone at?Mark

    Lots going on under the hood.
  • deTerminator's Best Feature
    Dave Schwartz, some questions for you:
    What do you consider deTerminator's best feature (AI Line, AI Best Horse Pct, $Net, ...) to be, and why?
    What is the easiest way to apply it to generate profits?
    Tom Atwater

    Considering what I've been working on for the last week, I'd have to say:

    "THE BEST FEATURE" is NONE OF THE ABOVE!

    Brian and Tony have the prerelease. Maybe they can give you a first impression.
    Ping @ponyplayer & @Tony Kofalt

    I hope to have it finished by tomorrow night.
  • deTERMINATOR: Confidence Level vs. Score Problem
    35 fixes it and is in your DropBox.
  • deTERMINATOR: Confidence Level vs. Score Problem
    It's working but I left in a stop.
    I'll explain all of this tonight.

    But Upgrade coming to get rid of the UNNECCESSARY stop.
  • George Makes a Run For it
    Georgeontherun-- good name for a race horse.Jim Pommier

    LOL
    I like it!

    As I always say when new people come over...
    "$500 for the bird and the cage."
    They say that they're not looking for a bird.
    Then I say, "How about I give you $800?"
  • Some High-Level Questions About How deTerminator Works - AI Line

    There is no replay.
    A big bug was discovered and, while the lesson was clear, it was dwarfed by the bug.

    Took me 19 hours to find and solve that bug.
    But in the end I was the victor.

    We had a meeting tonight where a similar but better version of the lesson was presented.
  • Some High-Level Questions About How deTerminator Works - AI Line
    “A priori” would be precisely correct, As it is , As it is somewhat Bayesian In nature.

    (Sometime dictation drives me insane.)
  • Saturday 09-14 HandicappingGet-together
    You guys probably want the v1.0027 upgrade.
    Link to discussion
  • How to bet "The Neal"
    Agree with everything that ponyplayer said above. Another tactic is concentrating (at lease initially) on horses that are bet way down from their AI line. For these horses then try including additional factors such as rank and margin and grade (I've found that horses in the "A" range tend to do well). As you get better with experience you will come up with other ideas, broadening and improving your approach.Neal Freedman

    I see it the same way as both you & @ponyplayer.

    What the AI Line gives us is a standard to measure the gate odds (or whenever) against.
  • Some High-Level Questions About How deTerminator Works - AI Line
    Is the AI Line an estimate of what the whales are using to estimate the true probability of a horse winning the race?
    That is, is it an estimate of the line the whales compare to the post time tote odds, then essentially bet the overlays in some fashion?
    Tom Atwater

    The AI Line is literally how the entire public should bet the horses based upon past history.

    Imagine you have a horse who IS 1/5 on the tote board.
    How did he get that way?

    Most of the time, if you were to look at the key betting factors you would find that this horse was ranked 1st for just about everything.

    In other words, he is likely the best horse in the race.
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    The roots of the AI Line trace back to a column in HSH IV Tables - The "BV" column - which stands for "Betting Value." Simply put, that is an IV-type representation of the expected percent of pool that should be wagered on each horse.
  • Definitions = A Thesaurus of deTerminator concepts
    Dave, what plans do you have for deTerminator documentation in general?Tom Atwater

    That could be a long answer but, in my newly made commitment to brevity, I will say that it begins with a new approach. Still videos, but very short and mostly based upon screenshots.

    The onboarding process is really the key - and the team will help with that greatly.
  • My New Software is coming: The STUDIO
    Thank you.
    We seem to be doing pretty well.
  • big shout out to jimmy pommier for his work out idea:

    That's because you did not tell me who you are beyond "Bob, a customer."
  • big shout out to jimmy pommier for his work out idea:
    I need the workout reportsbob

    Please send me a private message detailing who you are so I can send them via email.