• Kentucky Derby & Oaks
    I haven't finalized my selections yet, but I'm looking at a few medium or even high-priced horses. Two Phil's and Confidence Games so far.
  • Kentucky Derby & Oaks
    I'm thinking it's a trick question-- so Race 2. Guessing one of the ES78's presses the other initially out of the gate, so much so that the horse being pressed makes the lone lead at the 1st call. The one ES78 horse breaks and then waits for competition that isn't there, isn't really pressed, and never gets the lone lead.
  • Kentucky Derby & Oaks
    Okay, interesting. I didn't know that. Your Quick Grid was the more accurate indicator of an early fast pace that developed.
  • Kentucky Derby & Oaks
    Yes, would appreciate your 2 cents. One E7-- Verifying. One P7-- Practical Move. No "6's. The rest are all E/P, P and S-- and 5 points and less. If I recall correctly, you have your own Run Style and Points ratings. Would be interested in what you come up with. 2022-- 21.78, 45.36, 110.34 and 136.96-- (21.78, 23.58, 24.98, 26.62).
    Also, to note: Angel of Empire, Two Phil's, Hit Show, Disarm and Skinner-- all with improving BRIS speed figures over their last 4 races. I think one or two of these can maybe improve one more time.
  • What about the Whales?
    Thanks ...... I like the idea of horses leaving the maiden ranks with a speed figure(s) which can be questioned at the new class level. Also, shippers ...... can look at that from both the track and the trainer perspective.
  • What about the Whales?
    "Another option is to enhance our recognition of BALO (bet against low odds) horses and learn a tolerance point for price horses. What signal is in our arsenal that would allow us to include a big odds horse in our wagers?"
    I guess my questions is ...... how do you do this? Are there specific factors you look for ...... and then toss the favorite or low odds horse(s)? I understand you may not be correct all of the time ...... but what "signals" do you look for that points to throw-out favorites or low odds horse(s)?
  • Place / Show Wagering
    Well, the Place / Show wagering crashed. Or at least it's not for me. The payouts were too small using my handicapping. Also, even a small 2-3 run out is difficult to make back up. Seems you need to be even more restrictive in your selections than I was and also be able to pick a few medium prices. Not easy. It's fun to do and you cash a lot of tickets, but it's just not profitable. At least not for me. Now on to something else.
  • Place / Show Wagering
    No overall profit. But feel I'm pretty close. Pick a lot of place/show winners, but it's the string of 2-3 losers that's an issue. It's difficult to catch back to positive when the next payouts are so low. Sunday, I experimented with a progressive type of wagering and did very well. But, the last few days, not so good. That's why I was curious of some kind of unit wagering.
    Also, having to help out a lot with my family, I cannot sit and play live all day. Some days have to place wagers and run, etc. Or I'm live and then have to pick up and leave. Not ideal. No wagering yesterday. I think I may have to table until things settle down and I can work on it and keep better record keeping. I'll post again as I move forward.
  • Horizontal key??
    Wow! Tony - Jack Double.
  • Horizontal key??
    Now need Jack's #4 (Gasoline) in R5.
  • Season's Greetings to all
    It's supposed to warm up tomorrow for our annual Xmas grill out-- about 5 degrees. 26 years ago, the beer keg froze. Had to bring it inside. See how it goes tomorrow. Not to worry, 50 degrees mid next week!?!? Have a great holiday.
  • Trends
    Funny that I mentioned the old pattern-- "...... back-to-back road games with the first game in Denver. Because of the higher altitude in Denver, the players' shots would be off in the next road game. Take the home team." The Lakers played in Denver on Wednesday and are in Minneapolis tonight. The problem is the Lakers have been shooting horribly in their first 4 games. Not sure they can shoot any worse, altitude or no altitude. The line this morning was T-wolves -8.5, now it's -7.5. Not sure if the T-wolves want to put a hurt on LeBron, but for craps and giggles, laid the points-- T-wolves -7.5, $11 to win $21.19.
  • Trends
    Wow. Imagine 1988 and you had 2022 sports betting on your iPhone with live in-game wagering. Making wagers during the game with this software would have been fun.
  • Trends
    Patterns to specific scenarios. I think that it's something that's been overlooked.
    Yes, I do recall home-road dead-bang winner (or something to that affect). The one I remember most was a team with back-to-back road games with the first game in Denver. Because of the higher altitude in Denver, the players' shots would be off in the next road game. Take the home team. Today, very few 2nd road games after Denver are within 1-2 days.
  • How will they run?
    BEL R1 - #6/3/1
    BEL R4 - #11/4/2/1
  • 2022 Belmont Stakes
    I wish I could find it again, but someone posted odds based on yesterday's double with the Belmont. Mo was 2-1 and WTP was 2.9-1. The Derby winner Rich was about 6/7-1. So looks like your odds could be a little better than 2-1 on WTP.
  • 2022 Belmont Stakes
    I plan on doing the same-- P5. R8 I'll try to beat Arrest Me Red. R10 try and beat Gufo. I plan to use both on my ticket but go 5 to 6 deep with other contenders.
  • 2022 Belmont Stakes
    I like Mo Donegal. Was 10 wide in the Derby. Will get a better trip. WTP is the only +5 Q (E6), but doesn't have extreme E1/E2 pace numbers. Will he bounce off his ATH speed figure? Certainly can get the lead. But will there be any pace pressure? I think Mo will be a little closer to the pace. Always swings wide, but won't have to go 10 wide. Has solid pace and speed numbers versus the field, and I'm looking for him to improve off the Derby effort.
  • What do you think of the traditional past performance model?
    Wow!! Very nice. A lot of data there. Like the color coding. But I see the point of your original post.
  • My Playing Strategy Plus Kentucky Derby, 2022
    Dave, thank you for the video. At least for me, it was very helpful. I have a few questions, if fellow handicappers in the forum could please provide their thoughts.
    1. I use BRIS. From what I've read, horses with a +6, +10, etc Prime Power point advantage win at a very high percentage (of course many times at very low odds like 1-2). How to play? Many do not look vulnerable but still get beat.
    2. How to play small 5 and 6 horse fields where you land on the 8-5 and 2-1. Always separate using jockey/trainer (and other factors), or Dutch? Also, happens in 7+ horse fields, then Dutch?