I'm thinking time and money. To build a program to look at factors in multiple ways and to run data in something 3-dimensional versus one horse at a time would take a lot of time and money. I don't think individual horseplayers have either. If they did, do they want to commit to that kind of investment. Finally, can you build something that will work and is profitable?

Working okay now. Thanks.

Is the video still available? Watched it this morning and getting an error now. Thanks, JIm.
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I pretty much use them like you. A <5% trainer, I'll leave the horse off my ticket most of the time. I may wager on a horse if the trainer has a high win percentage in an individual statistical category such as "46-90 days away" even though the trainer's overall win percentage is <10%. But I look at other factors, not just the positive trainer stat.

I'm hoping to dig into this a little more this week. E, E/P, P or S-- is there any trend? High early pace or late pace ranking?

Try again.

I found a 2013 article that someone over on PA posted that has the information (see below). The data would have to be dusted off since it's from 2013. Probably not too many changes. But it's not in any ready to use mechanical/Excel format. Guessing that a table behind the scenes would have to be built. Not sure if this is something you want to undertake as a programmer? I understand if you don't. The effort to program, and then the visit to the "rabbit hole" as you say. May not be worth it. Thanks, Jim.

Good afternoon, Steven. I'm interested with working with you on a new spot play. Or at least running it by you. This idea is from my brother. It's a little unique. Also, may be difficult to code since I don't think that the different track's configurations are easily available in current files. Maybe I'm wrong on that.
1. Last race was a 2-turn race. Any distance but was run at 2-turns.
2. Today's race is a 1-turn race at 6.5 to 8.0 furlongs.
3. Today's qualifier(s) have a high ranked late pace (LP) [1st, 2nd], or the LP is within *5 points* of the 1st ranked LP.
For example, a horse runs a 2-turn race at 1 1/16 miles, and today is running 1-turn at 7.0 furlongs. Has the 2nd best LP.
It gets a little tricky since some tracks have 2-turn 8.0's and others are 1-turn. So, it's not always a cut back in distance. The distance could be the same, but today the race is 1-turn versus 2-turns. Also, the "shipper" angle then comes into play.
Thanks, Jim.

Thanks Steven. Let me give some thought to any add-ons. I agree with your statement about 100% mechanical methods and angles. Tom did post this-- "hitting over 50% winners in the top 2, 64% in the top 3, and 25% exactas in the top 3." Thanks again for your help.

I'm not sure what to make of the results. Below is from yesterday 15JAN2022 at GPX and TAM. I tossed 1 maiden race at TAM since there were several FTS's. I highlighted a couple of overlays. There is at least 1 overlay in almost every race. So I think you need to add additional handicapping and/or use in verticals and horizontals. I know Tom provided a few working examples at the start. Perhaps he can provide a few more.
GPX
ML 3 / UOL 4.5
ML 3.5 / UOL 3.5
1.2 / 4.5
15 / 15
4.5 / 3.5
1.2 / 1.8
4 / 2.5
4 / 4
2.5 / 2
3.5 / 3.5
20 / 56
TAM
ML 30 / UOL 22
ML 2 / UOL 1.6
3 / 15
3.5 / 3.5
4 / 6
2 / 3.5
5 / 7
10 / 4.5
2 / 1.8

Thanks Steven. I'm very busy this week. But I have the new version downloaded and will try and test drive it this weekend or sometime next week. Thanks, Jim.

Okay, if it's an easy fix.

Okay, I was not aware of this rule-- "the software will only rank the top 5 horses, all others will be 100-1." I checked several entries, and this appears to be what's happening. The top 6th or 7th low ML entries that I checked are earning points in the 5 categories, but LESS than the top 5, therefore are 100-1. I think you'll see the same. Just had me concerned when I saw it. Thanks, again-- Jim.

Good morning Steven. There appears to be a bug where some UOL's are defaulting to 100-1. I checked a few entries today 12/30 from AQU, GPX and FGX. I tried to find a pattern, but didn't see anything. If you check some of the low ML entries, 3-1, 4-1, etc, you'll see where the UOL's are 100-1. Thanks, Jim.

Thanks for the updates Steven. Mixed results today. But, just looking for overlays with no other handicapping. 2 Wins and 5 Places. Did catch another $40+ winner. Also, noticed a few selections that were bet down to, or close to the UOL, that would have been thrown out if you were simply looking only for strong overlays.
FGX
R3 - #4. (ML 5-1 / UOL 2-1). Out. #10 (ML 10-1 / UOL 4.5-1). Out.
R4 - #2 (6 / 2).Out.
R5 - #1 (8 / 5). 2nd - $9.20. #13 (10 / 3.5). Out.
R7 - #9 (8 / 2.5). Out. #3 (6 / 3).Out.
R8 - #1 (8 / 3.5).2nd - $5.20.
R9 - #6 (8 / 2.5). Out. #12 (15 / 3.5). Out.
R10 - #7 (8 / 2.5). 3rd.

HAW
R1 - #5 (5 / 2.5). 1st - $7.80 / $4.20.
R2 - #3 (6 / 3). 2nd - $5.20.
R5 - #1 (10 / 4.5). Out.
R6 - #10 (8 / 3.5). Out.
R7 - #6 (8 / 3).Out. #10 (12 / 6). Out.
R8 - #5 (4.5 / 2). 2nd - $3.20.
R9 - #2 (15 / 7). Out.

PRX
R3 - #9 (5 / 2.5). Out.
R4 - #4 (4.5 / 2.5). Out.
R6 - #1 (4.5 / 2). Out. #8 (6 / 3.5).Out.
R7 - #6 (5 / 1.4). Out.
R8 - #9 (10 / 3). 1st - $47.20 / $15.20.
R10 - #6 (6 / 2.5). Out. #5 (6 / 3). 2nd - $6.20.

FGX and HAW updates after scratches. FYI. Remember, I'm using the ML. With scratches, real-time odds come into play, and some of the selections are no longer overlays.
FGX
R3 - #4. (ML 5-1 / UOL 2-1). #10 (ML 10-1 / UOL 4.5-1).
R4 - #2 (6 / 2).
R5 - #1 (8 / 5). #13 (10 / 3.5).
R7 - #9 (8 / 2.5). #3 (6 / 3).
R8 - #1 (8 / 3.5).
R9 - #6 (8 / 2.5). #12 (15 / 3.5).
R10 - #7 (8 / 2.5).

HAW
R1 - #5 (5 / 2.5).
R2 - #3 (6 / 3).
R5 - #1 (10 / 4.5).
R6 - #10 (8 / 3.5).
R7 - #6 (8 / 3). #10 (12 / 6).
R8 - #5 (4.5 / 2).
R9 - #2 (15 / 7).

PRX updates after scratches.
R3 - #9 (5 / 2.5).
R4 - #4 (4.5 / 2.5).
R6 - #1 (4.5 / 2). #8 (6 / 3.5).
R7 - #6 (5 / 1.4).
R8 - #9 (10 / 3).
R10 - #6 (6 / 2.5). #5 (6 / 3).

Let's try a few tracks today 27DEC2021.
FGX
R3 - #4. (ML 5-1 / UOL 2-1). #10 (ML 10-1 / UOL 4.5-1).
R4 - #2 (6 / 2.5).
R5 - #1 (8 / 5).
R7 - #2 (8 / 4).
R9 - #6 (8 / 2.5). #12 (15 / 3.5).
R10 - #7 (8 / 2.5).

HAW
R2 - #3 (6 / 3.5).
R5 - #1 (10 / 4.5).
R6 - #10 (8 / 3.5).
R7 - #6 (8 / 3). #10 (12 / 6).
R8 - #5 (4.5 / 2).
R9 - #2 (15 / 7).

PRX
R2 - #6 (15 / 8).
R3 - #9 (5 / 2.5).
R4 - #4 (4.5 / 2.5).
R6 - #1 (4.5 / 2). #8 (6 / 3.5).
R7 - #6 (5 / 1.4).
R8 - #9 (10 / 3.5).
R9 - #4 (15 / 7).
R10 - #6 (6 / 2.5). #5 (6 / 3.0).

I wasn't sure what to expect. Looks like you can work this into your handicapping. Not sure how many $48.20 winners you'll see. I did see where Tom worked some of his picks into Exactas. 8 races-- 2 Winners and 3 Places.
GPX
R3 - #4. ML 5-1 / UOL 3.5-1. +Trn/Jockey combo. +Trn 2nd off layoff. 3rd.
R5 - #2. 8-1 / 4-1. Surf change AW to Turf. +Jockey change. 2nd off layoff. Out.
R7 - #4. 5-1 / 2-1. Jockey change. 2nd after claim. 2nd - $5.20.
R10 - #1. 4-1 / 1.8-1. Best Speed. AQU Shipper. MSW to MdClm drop. 2nd - $3.80.

TAM
R4 - #4. 8-1 / 3-1. 3.5 length winner last out. Back in 13 days. Needs to repeat Speed. 2nd - $6.20.
R5 - #5. 12-1 / 4.5-1. Broke Maiden first out in last. Dirt to Turf, Sprint to Route. 1st - $48.20 / $20.60.
R7 - #9. 4-1 / 2-1. Best Speed. Ships in from AQU. +Jockey change. 1st - $7.40 / $3.60.
R8 - #3. 8-1 / 4.5-1. +Trn/Jockey combo. Out.

Here's another one at TAM after scratches:
R8 - #3. 8-1 / 4.5-1. +Trn/Jockey combo.