• RanchWest
    503
    You guys gotta know that winning players never share their secrets.....HorseSense

    That's funny.
  • Jack Price
    27
    Morning Line can you you that too....HorseSense

    FYI: Top 3 MLO ranks (including ties) = 70.5% of all winners...that's a little short of 80%!
  • Dave Schwartz
    357
    You guys gotta know that winning players never share their secrets.....

    I just gave you the most important piece of the game....

    Head it and go forward
    HorseSense

    My experience is that winning players - and especially professional players - absolutely do share what they do.

    After all, if WINNING PLAYERS really are that smart (and we are), how would anyone know if information wasn't shared?

    Ping @Tony Kofalt @Rich Val
  • Jack Price
    27
    I would contend (small pun coming) that the issue is not the win% on the top contenders.
    The issue is figuring out which low odds horses to remove BEFORE selecting those contenders.
    Dave Schwartz

    Yes, big fan of your RVM (Race Value Metric) used to determine a playable race!
  • Rich Val
    7
    My experience is that winning players - and especially professional players - absolutely do share what they do.

    After all, if WINNING PLAYERS really are that smart (and we are), how would anyone know if information wasn't shared?
    Dave Schwartz

    Summed it up perfectly.

    But Dave - just remember that trolls can be fun.
  • Dave Schwartz
    357
    @Rich Val

    Just so you guys know, a few years ago I was struggling to win. Rich valentine came out of the woodwork and offered to coach me. We did 7 sessions over a couple of weeks that put me back on track.

    Remember that, Rich?
  • Rich Val
    7
    Remember that, Rich?Dave Schwartz

    Of course.
    Then you built a product from it - which is not in the store any more. I forget the name of it but the lessons were great.
  • Dave Schwartz
    357

    Yes, they were.

    If only you hadn't followed the script of a movie. LOL
    I had to take it down so I didn't get beaten up by some lawyers.

    When I eventually watched the movie - Seven Days in Utopia - I realized how brilliantly you had turned the lessons in the movie into horse racing lessons.
  • Rich Val
    7
    Sorry about that, but it did work for you.
    :lol:
  • Rich Val
    7
    Plus you got to make some money off the product. :grin:
  • Jack Price
    27
    here is nothing that will give you 80% within top 3 with a substantial amount of plays...HorseSense

    You’re probably right, but I’ve got some ideas to pursue….

    BTW, I appreciate all your comments as it’s nice to have different perspectives….
  • Dave Schwartz
    357
    Not like Dave where things change pending on which way the wind blowsHorseSense

    Clearly you and I are on different pages.
    I doubt that you will offer much of anything to anyone.

    Hope you change that soon.
  • RanchWest
    503
    Just so you guys know, a few years ago I was struggling to win. Rich valentine came out of the woodwork and offered to coach me. We did 7 sessions over a couple of weeks that put me back on track.Dave Schwartz

    That's impressive.
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