• Dave Schwartz
    357
    (This is a re-release of a blog post from PaceMakesTheRace.com.)

    I am sure that some people get tired of me going on about the whales. If so, just ignore this post.

    I study them because they're our major competition; the single thing that makes this game most difficult to beat.

    Well, in truth, I study the IMPACT of whales.

    The battle has been very one-sided. That is, every year the game gets tougher, as the efficiency in the factors becomes more even.

    This post will illustrate how I came to this conclusion. Before we are finished, I will also tell you why I think this can actually work in our favor.

    I have drawn races from Feb. 01 to July 15th from each of the last 2 years. 5f to 9f, fast tracks, 5+ betting interests, no FTS, and races with entries have been removed.

    An example:
    0108-Efficient%20Stats-PSR.jpg

    Let me tell you what you are looking at.

    (This factor is Jim Cramer's Projected Speed Rating. It is very much like BRIS Prime Power.)

    #1. We are concentrating on the $Net column. This is the return per $2 wager for the different ranks. (FH is actually half-the-field-plus-1 horse and does not include 1-2-3.)

    #2. See how the $Nets flow downward? This is indicative of how aware the public is of this factor.

    In the case of a high-level factor such as PSR or BPP, it actually means that the public is dialed into the factors that make up these "factors." (In our software, we call these "Objects.")

    #3. What we are really interested in is the ratio between the top rank and the bottom rank. We call that the "$Net Ratio."

    The higher the $Net Ratio is, the more difficult it is to make money with longshots because the bigger prices are going to come from the Rear Half (RH) of the field.

    In other words, the better the public is at isolating on the "hot horses," the more they will be bet down. This will effectively take some of those RH horses and cause the winners to no longer be long-priced.

    #4. What we want to do at #4 is compare the 2017 $Net Ratio with the 2018 ratio.

    What we see in this illustration is that the PSR factor has become more efficient. That is, the ratio has "flattened."

    BTW, look at just how bad a "rear-half" horse really is.

    Also, note how there is a distinct flattening of the top 3. My belief is that this is indicative of (at least philosophically) the whales doing a better job of finding "true value" in those top 3 ranks.

    As they get closer to the same $Net, they have been effectively rendered useless because they make no difference in the bottom line.

    Let's look at another example.
    0108-Efficient%20Stats-FT.jpg

    Here we are looking at a factor in our system known as "Composite Final Time." It is created from 13 different ways of looking at speed ratings, such as Last Race, Best-of-Last-2-Races, Average-of-the-Last-3-Races, Best Ever, etc.

    It is safe to assume that to a large degree, these two tables illustrate just how dialed in the public is to the impact of speed ratings.

    Look at the gigantic shift in efficiency in the ratio!

    Understand that the normal annual shift (in major factors like these) has been something in the vicinity of 2-3%. That's kind of like saying, "The public is getting 2-3% smarter every year."

    This particular jump was in the magnitude of 10%!

    This is unprecedented. I check these figures almost every year and have never seen a jump like this.

    By comparison, Quirin Early Speed Points have been tuned in for so long that they hardly change at all.

    (As a side note, a logical question for a handicapper to ask themselves is, "What did I do this year to get 3% smarter?")

    Let's do another.
    0108-Efficient%20Stats-PSROld.jpg

    Here's an older version of HDW's Projected Speed Rating. It has been around much longer, does not correlate with the tote board as much as PSR (or BPP), and, like Q ES Pts, has been dialed in for several years.

    Still, it moved downward over 3%. (129-125) / 125 =3.1%.

    I contend that there is a silver lining to this. I believe the whales have created a vulnerability and I will share it with you.

    Next, we look at the impact on the tote board.
    0108-Efficient%20Stats-PubCh.jpg

    he odds change in the opposite way.

    What we see here is a widening of the top-to-bottom $Nets.

    This is the impact of even more winners being pushed towards the top. Now, some of this is caused by smaller fields.

    Look at the 2017 stats. See how the $net was relatively even between the first 3 choices ($1.68, $1.66, $1.64), then dropped off at "FH" ($1.49)?

    A summary of 2017 would be:
    1st, 2nd, 3rd = best
    FH = bad
    RH = horrible

    Now look at 2018. Thus far this year, we've seen the actual favorite rise a couple of cents, over the next two ranks.

    A summary of 2018 would be:
    1st = best
    2nd, 3rd, FH = good
    RH = horrible

    In other words, favorites are returning more money at a slight expense to the 2nd and 3rd choices, while the FH has improved to become equal with 2nd/3rd. The RH has gotten even worse.

    To say this in fewer words, the public is more dialed in on everything above the rear half. (This is shown clearly in the $Net ratio change.)

    Another thing to say would be that some of the winning longshots of the rear half are being bet down so that they pay less.

    Finally, there is this...
    0108-Efficient%20Stats-Summary.jpg

    This is the summary table. I ran it against these key factors but usually run it against about 200 factors.

    There are 4 metrics:
    $Net Ratio
    IV Ratio (Impact Value)
    PIV Ratio (Pool Impact Value)
    PubCh Ratio

    Remember that these ratios are always rank1 divided by RH to produce a ratio except for PubCh which is the other way around. That is, it is the average public choice rank of RH divided by average public choice rank of the favorite.

    That last one can be confusing. Essentially, the 1st 3 of these ratings are beneficial to the handicapper if the winners are pushed to the top. (i.e. better ranks mean more money returned.)

    However, the public choice thing means we'd rather see the RH horses be HIGHER ranks for public choice.

    The scoring column is merely all the ratios multiplied together.

    The key point here is that the PubCh factor - that is, rank for lowest odds - has moved from rank of 5th to rank of 2nd in one year.

    This is absolutely unprecedented.

    What does it mean?
    It means that the days of just picking longshots with no regards for how strong the low-odds horses are or aren't and being competitive are pretty much over.

    It means that if you are going into a race with an idea that sounds even remotely like, "I just pretend that all the horses under 8/1 are not in the race," you are done before you get started, because the low odds horses are going to pound you.

    Permit me to give you some sobering stats:
    0108-Efficient%20Stats-20-1up2018.jpg

    Do you want to connect on 20/1 horses? They come up 2.69% of the time. That is once every 37 races.
    0108-Efficient%20Stats-20-1up-8h2018.jpg

    What's that you say? You only play 8-horse fields and above?

    Well, that will add a couple of points to your chances. You're now all the way up to 4.36%.

    One of those occurs every 23 races. Hope you have the right horse in that race.

    Let's be more realistic. (And back to all races again.)
    86% of all winners are under 8/1.
    79% of all winners are under 6/1.
    70% of all winners are under 9/2.
    61% of all winners are under 7/2.

    What about 8+ horse fields?
    81% of all winners are under 8/1.
    73% of all winners are under 6/1.
    63% of all winners are under 9/2.
    53% of all winners are under 7/2.

    So, with all this bad news, where is the good news?

    That's coming as soon as I can get it written, which could take me a couple of hours.

    Meanwhile, what do YOU think a GOOD answer could be?

    The issue about the whales generating profit is correct. (According to my sources) they retool every winter and put it into play towards the end of January.
    This year's retooling effort seems to have changed things quite a bit from my POV.

    Remember that when the whales agree on who should be bet, they all lose. To be clear about that, when a track has a big day for favorites, all the whales lose money because they're betting more than just those winning favs.

    IMHO, because there are so many winners who are showing up as bet downs after the gate opens, the handicapper who EXPECTS to be competitive, needs to address these issues:

    1. Which horse(s) are likely to be bet down below what they should be?

    2. Which, of the low-odds horses is a true bet against horse?

    This may seem like handicapping 101 but it is actually far different than what most players do now.

    As I said in one of my earlier posts, the days of just ignoring the favorites (i.e. assuming that all favorites are bad bets) and focusing on the long shots is a definite path to the poor house.

    If one considers implementing those two steps I have recommended, one will find that there must be a serious change in their handicapping technique.

    Notice that there is no mention of actually handicapping the race from a conventional POV.

    It is all about those two steps.

    Example: If you look at class drops, which of those two issues does it address? Will it point to a horse that will be bet down after the gate opens? Does it point to a low-odds BIG loser (in terms of money returned)?

    If it does neither of those, it serves no purpose but to obfuscate the goal.

    I've not had a winning year thus far. Since I began working on this approach, based upon extensive paper play, I've become convinced that the approach is sound.

    Ironically, my average prices have never been this high because a substantial number of "bet downs" are in the $9 to $18 range, with the occasional monster hit.

    As I said, all this is on paper, so I still have to see how it plays out when pulling the trigger live. I don't expect it to be any different because the system is 100% automatic and there is zero use of the tote board.

    Another piece of irony is that when I have introduced the actual odds (which, of course, I would never have when playing live) my results were NOT AS GOOD!

    I've shared this because I know that there have to be some pretty good handicappers out there that are having a more difficult time than usual this year. Perhaps this will offer you some potential places to look for answers.

    So, in my opinion, this is a new way to play.

    As for how you actually do this, I will not share that. There is no new product coming, no new videos or book on this topic.

    Good luck to all of you.
  • Biniak
    54
    I just want to confirm that this is a re-post from a few years back?

    I am asking because in the KD Zoom meeting you were confident in your 2022 process.

    As usual...thanks or the intel.
  • Dave Schwartz
    357


    First line in my post.
    (This is a re-release of a blog post from PaceMakesTheRace.com.)Dave Schwartz

    The concepts are still solid.

    BTW, I spent some time researching my current approach and think I have found a way to improve it.

    Needs more races.
  • Tony Kofalt
    397
    Thanks Dave. I recall this or similar research from a few years ago. It's amazing how much solid information is forgotten when you resume your regular handicapping.
  • William Zayonce
    41
    While I don't completely comprehend these tables, I do get the gist of it. It's quite fascinating!
    Have you given any thought to the relative effect of ;
    1: steadily shrinking average field sizes,
    2: slowly but steadily increasing takeout rates
    3: the possibility that many players are simply getting more efficient, perhaps by using computer programs .?
    These have all escalated significantly since 2010
  • Dave Schwartz
    357
    3: the possibility that many players are simply getting more efficient, perhaps by using computer programs .?William Zayonce

    This is the real challenge.

    4 people out of a 1000 win.
    6 out of 6 whales win.

    There's the math.
  • William Zayonce
    41
    Perhaps I misunderstood your explanation of what Whales do...I took it mean that they use their sophisticated programs to "churn"
    their money through the pools with a return of +/-3%, and make their "profit" on rebates.
    That would not be "winning" by my definition.It is "getting paid to play".
    On that basis ,one would think that their practical limit of overall "average" participation in all pools would be limited to 30/35%. Since that threshold appears to have been reached, my thought was that "other" factors might also be relevant in determining why the odds are levelling out and diminishing. Have I made an inaccurate assumption?
  • Dave Schwartz
    357
    Have I made an inaccurate assumption?William Zayonce

    You'll have to be the judge of that, but I would say "no."

    Not +/- 3% but rather precisely -3.5% has been the target.
    This allows an ROI of +7.5% to +9%.
    The model calls for the bankroll to be churned 125x per year.

    Limited to 30/35% depends upon the track takeout & rebate.

    Odds levelling out: They do not "level out." They skew towards the efficient -3.5% for them, which equates to almost pure takeout rates for us.
  • William Zayonce
    41
    Thanks for the clarification!
  • William Zayonce
    41
    Of course ,I'm aware that the participation rate will necessarily fluctuate from pool to pool, which is why I suggested "average" participation. Am I correct in assuming that the ROI of +7.5% to 9% is factoring in the rebates?
  • Dave Schwartz
    357
    Of course ,I'm aware that the participation rate will necessarily fluctuate from pool to pool, which is why I suggested "average" participation. Am I correct in assuming that the ROI of +7.5% to 9% is factoring in the rebates?William Zayonce

    Yes.
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