Sorry Cramer calls it a Presser Sustained at the stretch call

I really like Jim Cramer's work on this stuff.
Found it quite revolutionary.

My adaptation of it is to ask a question:
"When did the horse first challenge for the lead?"
"Challenge" is defined as being within one length.

What we call these really doesn't matter.

Hope this helps.

Yes.. I say without looking at video. if at the 1st call.. running line is 2nd by a head, he is still not in the lead...I use it as EP and this is me defining it in terms of past results of the winner. I am finding with this system... it is a horse wins wire to wire or challenges...is marked at the first call...All I can see is horses win in most situations are either E or the challenge or Sustained.. i.e. even though they are within 1-2 lengths at the stretch call, they still technically by the definition sustained horses.. So.. what I see with my pars I am seeing New York, Woodbine, Gulfstream, MTH. with the exception of Churchill, that in a 9 race card... etc.. is both surfices, more sustained bids than that 1st call on the lead.

I guess I answered a question that wasn't asked.
Sorry.

Ok, Dave..its Chuck. So when a horse challenges for the lead. I am presuming that would be the actual point of call where he is in 2nd place or when he takes the lead that your "Object" or "Factor when determing a running style in Pace is when you would consider that horse in a race to be an E, EP, P, S. I will give you examples, so which I know this is mundane perhaps to you but as you know, I consider Brisnet in my humble opinon, I take issue with at times and boy when you look at results charts and go back to a horses running style they have put together in terms of their version Dr. Qurin. What the horse does in a race compares to his past running style are like "Night and Day"

So. I have a race in front of me, whereby (again, I am talking the winner of the race, not any horses in their finishing order) whereby he is 3rd (1/4 pole-1.5 BL's) 3rd (1/2 pole-1.5 BL's) 3rd (3/4 pole-2.5 BL's). Stretch call... moves into 2nd ( 2 BL's) Finish line wins by 2.5. Now Cramer would consider this Pressure Sustained... Brohammer would call this Sustained.. Qurin Sustained... in your objects or factors when you designed your function for this..what does your handicaping sucess spit that out in terms of R/S.? Hope you are great, hope we can zoom again when you have time just to talk etc.

Same way.
He moved for the first time in the final furlong.