First, I was watching the videos and understanding the concepts etc. I wanted to have Dave show us or me a picture of what the software looks like in terms of presentation i.e. On your desktop, how it opens, and what the screens look like.. Remember as much as the guts are important, visuals in presentation help the user understand even though it may be complex in nature. i.e. under the hood, but everyone wants to see what the car looks like as far as interior and shinyness. Also, for those who may or may not know. — @Chuck

I'm confused.
Almost all of the videos are live looks at the screens and operations.

Perhaps you mean you want to see all of the operations from start to finish, including downloading and importing race data, etc.

If so, that will have to wait for the actual onboarding process.

I just have too much on my plate right now.

I know had mentioned to myself in teachings and in conversations that he lost a lot of weight which is such a great accomplishment and I was hoping that he could share for those of us if he so chooses, how he did it, his choosing of eating habits etc. Thanks again and look forward to future videos and hopeful some great screen shots of the questions asked. — Chuck

Oh man.
It's been quite the journey.

I'll find some time later tonight to answer this as it deserves to be answer.

Dave

Another excellent question.

Obviously, it has to learn from somewhere, so, yes, there IS a database. It's just not part of the distributed system.

The training module -which is not part of the distributed system either - DOES contain a database.

I actually got the idea from the LLMs - Large Language models.
When I saw they were all pre-trained, I thought of how one of the big handicaps with HSH was that it just didn't come with enough data on day one to study or build much of anything.

REALLY GREAT QUESTION!
The results across all poly is inconclusive, with a tiny leaning towards only a very slight impact change.
IOW, from a modeling POV, there are no hard-and-fast rules that fit, as with turf. More so in turf routes and almost none in turf sprints. (Anecdotally, they are too short and the turns too tight to be anything but a positional battle to the 1st call.)

Instead, the internal "modeling" seems to handle this. Frankly, I am shocked that it works so well, considering that there is no data; no model being kept.

Still, it is capable of looking at a race and saying, "This is what an E-style (or EP, etc) Winner's profile should look like."

But I believe you're real interest is in THE GREEN NUMBERS.
During the BALO Test video, I went aside looked at a couple of dozen turf races (from other days), and the results were really quite obvious - that strict enforcement of the 1s all the way across would be folly.

Remember that the REAL WORK has been done.
That is, the creation of the pace objects and the 1 thru 4 comparison to the whale betting. (Green Numbers)

But personal interpretation of the output is what prevents us all from being on the same horses!
Logically, you will make your own distinctions in your early experiences.


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There is a typo (apparently) in the new pars for WO dirt - which has been corrected.

What are the average winning odds for chaos 4 and 5 races? Also, we know that 88% winners come from 8/1 or better horses in all races. Is it still 88% in all chaos 4 and 5 races? — Dave R

I don't have data with the AI yet, but I can share what I know from my history over the years.

First, a tiny correction - 88% of winners are BELOW 8/1.

Is it still 88% in all chaos 4 and 5 races?
No. It is MUCH lower, meaning that the chances of a longshot payoff jumps through the roof. My guess would be something like 30%-40% or more will pay 8/1 or above.

If memory serves the AVERAGE PRICE in Chaos 5 is something like $28.

You just gave me an idea for a type of workshop we could schedule regularly: STATISTICAL QUESTIONS.

This would be where deTerminator users post their questions and we work thru them live using HSH as the primary tool.

Dave, will these meetings be recorded so that we may go back and review them at later dates? — Dave

Absolutely.
They will always be added to the list of videos.

1. Click inbox on the menu bar.
2. Click start new conversation in the upper left corner.

We need at least one post here in order to send a PM. This is mine. — Red Knave

Discovered that last night.
I'll get Sherri to turn that off.

Curious as to what AI software package you used for your new product? — Slim

It is 100% original code.
Nobody else's libraries whatsoever.

Send me a private message with your info, please.
Click Inbox.

Some of the BALOs get bet way up - 5/1 or higher.

Are these higher prices visible at 1-2 minutes to post
or are the severe odds increases only seen after the gates open?

I bet through Bovada and betting is cut off at 0 minutes to post. If the
horses circle behind the gate for 5 minutes, my ability to wager late
is zero.

Rephrased - will the public show these horses as cold on the board
before the ADW money is "not" sent in? Does the public money always/
usually agree 1-2 minutes before the start with the ADW money? — ponyplayer

I have no idea.
Well, I have some idea.

Please... I BEG YOU...
If you insist on using the GATE ODDS or anything from the tote board... you will prevent this from working AS IT WAS DESIGNED TO WORK.

The idea is that the AI is predicting who SHOULD or SHOULDN'T be bet.

Try to wrap your mind around the fact that this is DIFFERENT than who WILL or WON'T actually be bet.
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Every experiment I have ever done with BALOs of my own creation failed miserably when I used gate odds. I KNOW it seems logical that the tote would improve things, but I PROMISE it will not.

Remember that the AI is actually using my approach to this, except it had the ability to change the numbers and modify the Ranks & Mags.

What are you trying to accomplish?

I have a plan for this but it will not be in the upcoming beta release.

It will be addressed within a couple of weeks of initial release.

You definitely deserve a prize; you just had the wrong category (was my point).

LOL - Perfect.


Wait until you see how much more there is... some is already in DET and more that I have to share.
Just the tip of the iceberg. I'll try to find time for some screenshots soon.

Meanwhile back to my single bug and the rest.

"I think it deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, but I know nothing about dynamite." — ponyplayer

Can't believe I missed this reply for NINE DAYS!
If you look up Nobel peace prize, you'll find that Alfred Nobel produced weapons and explosives.
WIki Article: Nobel Prize

Great questions.
And thank you for asking here.

Do the whales only bet to win, or do they bet exacta, tri, sup, DD, pic3-4-5?
They play almost every track, almost every race at those tracks, and almost every pool within those races.

Also, when we get the program, will it all be on the internet, similar to Betmix, or will we have our own program that we download to our computers?
deTerminator will reside on your local machine.
You can take it anywhere. Perfect for a laptop. An internet connection IS NOT REQUIRED to run.
However, It will be licensed to a single machine, and will not run on a different machine.

(Yes, it is very good at telling the difference between machines.)

Because we want more accuracy.

They are two different approaches.
The RED number is based upon RUNNING STYLE - and, by virtue of not being green, is NOT AI. It is a computation.

The GREEN numbers ARE AI because the AI used it's own approach to build the objects and its own algorithm to determine likeness (to the AI Line), albeit starting with a formula I gave it.

1. Maybe I missed it. Along the paceline, between o AIBH and o Pace E there's a bold red pace figure like "SR". I wasn't sure what that was for? — Jim Pommier

SR stands for "Stretch Run."
The RED SR means that is what the RUNNING STYLE of the race would indicate to be the most important OBJECT of the 4 objects.

Chaos races. I'm guessing that the AI ranks a Chaos "5" more chaotic than a "1"? In one of the races, you knew that it was a chaos race. Is that because there were two (2) contenders (2 Non-BALO's) or was there a field or something that indicated it was a chaos race? The Instruction or Strategy screen that you went to-- is that just for chaos races? It's a nice feature.

That is correct. The primary difference between a 4 and a 5 is that a 5 suggests doing no handicapping and just playing ALL the NATURAL ODDS horses.

With a CHAOS-4 you CAN handicap the winners to the top.

Note that applying handicapping in a CH-5 (and only betting the good ones) will get you a whole bunch of medium -priced winners --- and likely be solidly profitable --- but at the expense of the GIANT payoffs - like $0, $120 and the like.

Those horses just very rarely handicap to the top against horses that ultimately wind up paying $12.

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